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Post by dragracer on Mar 5, 2012 11:51:43 GMT -6
Bob, why do you have to get on here being all negative all the time? The season hasn't even started yet, can't you give the guy a chance actually screw something up before you complain about it? As a mature adult shouldn't you show the man the same respect you expected? As far as time runs, love it or hate it having 2 or 3 runs then eliminations is sort of the standard setup at all tracks no matter where you go. Also, when I read competition cars only during time runs, I read that as only cars that bought a tech card, whether it be for test or brackets. I'm assuming they dont want people driving up to watch and deciding to pull into staging without buying a tech card. Thats my interpretation anyway.
As far as Greg being a circle track guy, don't you know his ties to drag racing? He's not a newcomer, he's been around the drag racing block a few times. I'm betting he knows at least as much if not more about bracket racing than you do.
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Post by stevemaas on Mar 5, 2012 12:17:51 GMT -6
Does anyone know if the Spring Nostalgia race is going to be the same format as last year (sticker over the delay box for the 7.49 and faster). Most guys have their delay box hard wired to their car and cant easily remove them, but if these cars arent allowed to compete then they will only have about 10 cars eligible to run that class.
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Post by chad378t on Mar 5, 2012 15:30:06 GMT -6
Funny....I talked to several at the chassis cert & five or six around here. NOT ONE has any issue with open time runs. Matter of fact...last year the track was known to sit around and wait hoping for more cars instead of going into eliminations. Guys have to work on Monday and don;t want to sit around late Sunday night.
The more runs I make on my car and equipment = more cost. Yes I enjoy it but wear & tear is not smart. You have two types of people...those who test & tune...and guys who focus on the race. Ones focused on the race won't be crazy about risking breakage just to make passes and generally don't need runs to dial stuff in.
Pretty simple....open time runs was OVERRATED!!!!! Stop making it sound like it was this new & innovative concept....
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Post by chad378t on Mar 5, 2012 15:31:05 GMT -6
Bob, why do you have to get on here being all negative all the time? Because he has so much time on his hands now...
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Post by problemchild on Mar 5, 2012 18:02:06 GMT -6
hummm, one run to get your car dialed in, sounds like a steering wheel holder with the computer doing the rest of the work. that's not racing to me. many times last year i had to be over in indiana by 7 am or down at nokomis at 5:45 am and was still at the track on sunday. so if you had to be at work at 11:00 pm sunday when you should have gone to a track that ran sat night.
i never went into the staging lanes and was the next car to run, there was always 8 to 10 cars ahead of me, which is much better than being called up by class and having to wait until all the wanta be racers can drag their a$$ into the staging lanes. i go to the track with the intent of having a good time, and spending the whole day relaxing and having fun with some friends.
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Post by problemchild on Mar 5, 2012 20:12:42 GMT -6
Steve, last year the track let some racer run the nostalgia races with there boxes covered by a sticker, but i was told by a reliable source that some racers were still using those boxes, because the numbers were light up. if you want to run the nostalgia shows you have plenty of time to change things so you can remove the box very easily in about 5 to 10 minutes. easley's camaro had a summit sticker over the delay box at the chassis cert over the weekend, and having never used one, i don't know if you can turn it off and then back on without having to reset your delay.
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Post by stevemaas on Mar 5, 2012 21:17:26 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean by turning it off and then back on without having to reset your delay problemchild, but I think I'll wait and see what the track manager has to say. Easley's car, like mine and several other last year, had to cover their box with a sticker so it would not be adjusted during eliminations. If the manager says we cant have a box then thats the way it is. No big deal.
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Post by chad378t on Mar 5, 2012 21:17:59 GMT -6
Problemchild...I can tell why you and Bob get along so well. If you think having a consistent race car is just a computor control away...you, like he have no idea the true requirements of succesfull bracket racing today. There is no computer to magically make a car consistent nor make a driver's lights good. Many of us work hard and spend a lot to develop these combinations. The fact we don't need 3-6 time runs to get sh*t right is a testament to our set ups. Yes I have needed a day to make a bunch of runs to find a gremlin...we all have. However, I would venture to say 95% of the racers today would agree that is not common or needed.
If you do it to make T&T passes as a form of fun....totally cool with that. Just don't put down those of us who put in the time, effort, and $$ put into what we see is fun........win lights. Those are MUCH harder to come by than Et slips with fast MPH's & low ET's.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Mar 6, 2012 6:48:15 GMT -6
The Muscle Car Reunion that was at Gateway added a "Pro Nostalgia" class for cars with electronics. They understood the number of cars out there with electronics that wouldn't remove them for a race. I wouldn't rewire mine for one event.
The fans in the stands have no idea what is going on inside the car. They can come watch an event where the cars look like they did way back then. They get the same show regardless of the electronics.
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Post by bracketracing on Mar 6, 2012 7:07:24 GMT -6
Putting a sticker over the delay means nothing. I seldom if ever adjust my delay box unless I'm at a new track. If its on the numbers stay you just wouldn't have cross talk? The box has to come out of the car to be honest!!!
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Post by bobg on Mar 6, 2012 8:07:08 GMT -6
I agree it's shorter than some tracks but... That's why they make chutes.... Coles County is shorter by about 100 feet. I ran my dragster and funny car there several times, never had a problem, Not saying that someone never went off the end at some time but I never saw anyone else have a problem all of the times we ran there. Yea the flood was a factor but the track could of opened again but the stock car people didn't want it. I honestly think everyone is in for a big disappointment this year. Almost all of the racers liked the open time trials, only a few said they actually liked the limited sessions. Why do they want to change? The track don't have the big car count that warrents limited runs. It also says Competition cars only during time trials.... so this must mean if a guy has a new car or a special class car and needs to test it, he's not welcome to run until after second round is complete??? Why wouldn't he be welcome to run during Time Trials? I guess the track don't need that racers test & tune entry fee. I always thought Drag Racing was supposed to be fun thing to do after working all week, not just show up and run two passes then eliminations... oh I forgot you can buy the third pass. Of course the stock car racers that are in charge like it that way, they would just as soon show up and get the race day over with and go home. Maybe they got more important things to think about... like what soda to sell at the track. Wait til they play a NASCAR race or a Ball game on the PA all day. I remember it was Stock Car people that closed the Pevely Mo. Dragstrip. Actually what closed the Pevely track was the flood of 93'. After that they never opened again even though Buddy tried to get it done it just wasn't enough. Another key factor was cars were getting faster and faster, Pevely was probably one of the shorter tracks around and if you ran over 120 you really needed to use the Chute. Ran my Beretta down there and I didn't like it at all, way to short. Can you imagine cars running 4.50's and 4.60's down there? They would have to park a trctor at the end of the track to pull all the cars out...
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Post by bobg on Mar 6, 2012 8:11:47 GMT -6
WHATEVER.... Bob, why do you have to get on here being all negative all the time? Because he has so much time on his hands now...
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Post by bobg on Mar 6, 2012 8:31:38 GMT -6
Im not negative... just throwing s#*t back that was throwed to me, and Brad you and Chad can kiss the baby. Greg don't know jack about drag racing and you know it... Except being a GOFER. Has he ever raced? NO... Has he ever owned a Drag Car? NO You all will find out real soon.... Can you say Cluster#^@% Two or Three runs is fine but I and many others prefer to run them when were ready to. Chad, We never waited for cars and you know it. Open time runs was open until a certain time (aprox 1:30) then the lanes were closed. Why show up if your so excited to get it over and go home? The open time trials had nothing to do with finishing later in the day. try, buy backs, shootout, test runs, license runs, waiting for cars to cool between rounds. MUCH MORE DOWN TIME WITH SESSIONS, Racers sitting in the pits waiting to be called, then a mad dash to the lanes and another 10 minutes waiting for everyone to get suited up. All this time nothing going down the track.... that's great for spectators sitting out in the sun. Bob, why do you have to get on here being all negative all the time? The season hasn't even started yet, can't you give the guy a chance actually screw something up before you complain about it? As a mature adult shouldn't you show the man the same respect you expected? As far as time runs, love it or hate it having 2 or 3 runs then eliminations is sort of the standard setup at all tracks no matter where you go. Also, when I read competition cars only during time runs, I read that as only cars that bought a tech card, whether it be for test or brackets. I'm assuming they dont want people driving up to watch and deciding to pull into staging without buying a tech card. Thats my interpretation anyway. As far as Greg being a circle track guy, don't you know his ties to drag racing? He's not a newcomer, he's been around the drag racing block a few times. I'm betting he knows at least as much if not more about bracket racing than you do.
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Post by problemchild on Mar 6, 2012 9:10:36 GMT -6
there is alot of double talk on the the cid web site. in one place they say time runs for comp cars only and in the rules they say test n tune run during time trials, and after second round.
a big THANK YOU to Mike Macmasters and the folks at Crossroads Sterling for setting up the chassis cert, since track management had their head up their and couldn't be bothered to do that. they think finding out which soda we want in the concession stand was more important.
as fouled up as cid looks like it will be I won't be doing much racing this year unless i go to ccd or gmp since they say they will run an 1/8 mile class.
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Post by mattf on Mar 6, 2012 9:36:20 GMT -6
Problem child-if i understand correctly gmp is only running s/p on the 1/8 so you better get a delay box if your gonna go there.
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