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Post by 338d on Mar 22, 2015 8:10:20 GMT -6
1st off, the deal with putting the box in the final a no go was a dumb rule for the king of the track runoff and this should be nothing like it. The other thing, for those complaining about not running it because of the runoff at the end is kinda crazy if you think about it. Last year guys ran the pro class bonus race for a chance at around 400 to win and that's it, but are complaining about it when it pays the same this year, except the fact that after you win the 400 you have a shot at racing for another 600, which will probably be split up a little bit most nights. Your crazy! I didn't run the pro bonus race last year, because it sucked and I didn't think it was worth the wear and tear on the car, but this makes it a much better deal to run. I am amazed how many people aren't worth a crap at simple math!
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:13:55 GMT -6
If this is indeed correct and not a typo or misprint and GMP is going 1/8 mile for Pro, it is a good thing. For all of those complaining about it not being 1/4 mile, for whatever personal reason, perhaps you would like to step up and chip in some extra $$$ to GMP to help them pay the higher insurance premium required due to the faster trap speed of the Pro and Super Pro cars in the 1/4 mile. Maybe then, they will go back to what you like. In the meantime, enjoy being able to race locally at a decent facility. Now, GMP can attract others already running 1/8 mile in the Bi-State area to race there. It may really be nothing more than plain economics and I don't blame them. insurance will not change , you will still have s/pro and pro cars running 1/4 in the box no box class so the speed will still be their , and worse yet you could have a 180 mph dragster up against a 85 mph sportsman car.
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:18:59 GMT -6
I am not a bracket racer, guys, but had plans to run with you in Pro 1/4-mile this year. Wanted to just get the car out and have some fun with it this year. I figured I would give some of you an easy win with my stick entry, LOL. So help me out and explain in more layman's terms what is happening in PRO. Will 1/4-mile only be allowed at the end, or will there be separate 1/8 and 1/4 PRO runs throughout the day. I go to Gateway to run the 1/4-mile. You still have the bonus class to run 1/4 in and for less money you could race sportsman in the 1/4 .
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Post by moparsz on Mar 22, 2015 8:25:30 GMT -6
And didn't I hear yesterday for the bonus class it's paying winner, runner up, and semis of each side and thats it
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:26:47 GMT -6
1st off, the deal with putting the box in the final a no go was a dumb rule for the king of the track runoff and this should be nothing like it. The other thing, for those complaining about not running it because of the runoff at the end is kinda crazy if you think about it. Last year guys ran the pro class bonus race for a chance at around 400 to win and that's it, but are complaining about it when it pays the same this year, except the fact that after you win the 400 you have a shot at racing for another 600, which will probably be split up a little bit most nights. Your crazy! I didn't run the pro bonus race last year, because it sucked and I didn't think it was worth the wear and tear on the car, but this makes it a much better deal to run. I am amazed how many people aren't worth a crap at simple math! I may not be a smart man but I do know what math is. Clay what are the chances that the s/pro is going to want to chop the grand he or she will most likely win against most of the pro or sportsman guys they would be up against ? If it is some one like you , dan or jeremy then maybe but unless your in that class of racer I would say pretty doubt full .
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Post by bracketracing on Mar 22, 2015 8:31:52 GMT -6
With your guys logic king of the track would always go to s/p cars. I'm confident that's not the case. I for one lost to a sportsman car in my s/p car. Actually a borrowed car
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:39:21 GMT -6
With your guys logic king of the track would always go to s/p cars. I'm confident that's not the case. I for one lost to a sportsman car in my s/p car. Actually a borrowed car If I had to guess the s/pro car wins as much if not more then the pro, sportsman and bike class put together but thats my guess.
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Post by 358t on Mar 22, 2015 8:39:32 GMT -6
Pat, I bet you are right about the time runs. If someone is racing 1/8th only and don't want to run 1/4 all they have to do is lift after the 1/8th in time runs and they still have their numbers. I overheard a heated discussion between Bob and a racer (the heated one) about this in the staging lanes last year. The 1/8 mile only racer was upset and arguing that GMP should have separate time runs for the 1/8 mile classes. Personally I don't understand why it was so upsetting or bad for him to just lift after the 1/8th while making time runs....
You guys quoting 1000/400 as the payout... where are you getting this info? Is it official or ?
Scott
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Post by drphillips309 on Mar 22, 2015 8:41:26 GMT -6
This is the truth that nobody wants to hear. The same mother Frs are going to continue to win races and championships no mater 1/8 -1,000'- 1/4 mile , sportsman , pro , superpro ! Long buttons no buttons , box or the foot! Suck it up and deal with it . It's is and always has been . Who wants it the worst ! Period!
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:41:35 GMT -6
Pat, I bet you are right about the time runs. If someone is racing 1/8th only and don't want to run 1/4 all they have to do is lift after the 1/8th in time runs and they still have their numbers. I overheard a heated argument between Bob and a racer about this in the staging lanes last year. The 1/8 mile only racer was upset and arguing that GMP should have separate time runs for the 1/8 mile classes. Personally I don't understand why it was so upsetting or bad for him to just lift after the 1/8th while making time runs.... You guys quoting 1000/400 as the payout... where are you getting this info? Is it official or ? Scott It was on a flyer at the cert and eti yesterday.
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Post by seeingred on Mar 22, 2015 8:56:34 GMT -6
This is the truth that nobody wants to hear. The same mother Frs are going to continue to win races and championships no mater 1/8 -1,000'- 1/4 mile , sportsman , pro , superpro ! Long buttons no buttons , box or the foot! Suck it up and deal with it . It's is and always has been . Who wants it the worst ! Period! Yes Jason the same mother frs are going to keep winning the majority of the time , but I still like to feel like I have a fighting chance . The thing is a hand full of drivers got Pro changed to suit them regardless of what other racers want . Lighten up its a forum for talking about this stuff , I would think opinions would be welcome. Think of it as racing key boards . Or is it the guys that win a lot or spend on there cars should get to have an opinion , if that's the case the page is going to be really boring .
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Post by dennismopar73 on Mar 22, 2015 9:14:06 GMT -6
Be like taking a knife to a gun fight No need to load up even try Ridiculous
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Post by scalemang on Mar 22, 2015 9:33:33 GMT -6
:)I for one think the handful is the ones whining about it . I talked to several racers before and most preferred 1/8 over 1/4 but the ones I asked were the dedicated gateway point racers that have run points since I started racing there in 97 and care about Indy. You see Indy has not been 1/4 mile since 2001 it sucks to be forced to run 1/4 every year only to make it to indy and have to run 1/8 I realize that I am talking indy and some of you don't care about that but most of us points racers do! hell some don't care about points they just want to race that's understandable but I feel I have been forced to run 1/4 all these years and I STILL did! I wish we could all race what we want but don't think that's possible with all the different opinions. I for one like the decision and think it will be better for the track too! If you are dead set on quarter then run the bonus race after all you probably don't care about points or indy I think it will work just my 2 cents
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Post by ratman on Mar 22, 2015 9:51:36 GMT -6
I had nothing to do with getting Pro changed from 1/4 to 1/8 but I support the decision. I have wanted this change for years. The bonus race will be fun and I bet you will see no box cars taking 50% of the wins this year. Most racers I know say they wanted 1/8 points and now we have it. Support your local track!
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Post by bracketracing on Mar 22, 2015 9:55:40 GMT -6
When and if you make it to the final in the bonus. You won't be happy because now you have to run a box car. I'm sure this class will have the largest payout unless pro stays out. All winter I was told by pro cars they would not run pro 1/4 and bonus 1/4. To hard on their cars they said
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