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Post by 338d on Jan 20, 2015 8:52:51 GMT -6
Like Tim said wouldn't it make more sence for pro to go to 1/8 mile to get even more cars from out of town like Scotty Vaugn and javon androff and " THE JIMMY " ? Or do we want to keep them away .lol Why would that keep them away they both have raced at GMP qtr miles races ? I think S/Pro has the issues last year drawing the cars not Pro . Im for the 8th mile pts race in pro .But really want a 2nd class still qtr mile . Not sure if the box no box class and combine in the final would work .Still dont see sportsman guys coming into that class . But wait in see . Don, I don't think the combo would be a bad deal. The winner of no box only has to worry about the super pro winner for 1 pass the entire night seems it would be winner vs winner. That only has an effect on 1 no box racer that night. And like we said in the past heck, throw a box in the car for the final if you feel better. It's a combo race not an NHRA king of the track, so they couldn't dispute a racer doing that in a run off.
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Post by rf1 on Jan 20, 2015 9:51:28 GMT -6
Like Tim said wouldn't it make more sence for pro to go to 1/8 mile to get even more cars from out of town like Scotty Vaugn and javon androff and " THE JIMMY " ? Or do we want to keep them away .lol Why would that keep them away they both have raced at GMP qtr miles races ? I think S/Pro has the issues last year drawing the cars not Pro . Im for the 8th mile pts race in pro .But really want a 2nd class still qtr mile . Not sure if the box no box class and combine in the final would work .Still dont see sportsman guys coming into that class . But wait in see . I thought we were trying to keep sportsman as an entry level class! Maybe the combo class would keep all of the pro guys from cherry picking in sportsman. I would welcome any sportsman entry into combo but that is not the intent imo And if all of the pro hitters stay away from sportsman maybe the wed. Night crowd will give it a try
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Post by jeremy341a on Jan 20, 2015 10:45:44 GMT -6
Here is the problem I see with the combo. I think you will get 40 sp cars and only 10 or so pro cars. So either the pro car gets dumped in early or gets to run fewer rounds than the sp car. If the entries or close to even that would be great. I think it would be a great class that pays good money. However last year the second pro class was usually light on cars.
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Post by p518 on Jan 20, 2015 11:00:52 GMT -6
Why would that keep them away they both have raced at GMP qtr miles races ? I think S/Pro has the issues last year drawing the cars not Pro . Im for the 8th mile pts race in pro .But really want a 2nd class still qtr mile . Not sure if the box no box class and combine in the final would work .Still dont see sportsman guys coming into that class . But wait in see . I thought we were trying to keep sportsman as an entry level class! Maybe the combo class would keep all of the pro guys from cherry picking in sportsman. I would welcome any sportsman entry into combo but that is not the intent imo And if all of the pro hitters stay away from sportsman maybe the wed. Night crowd will give it a try Sportsman is an entry level class? Uh, oh. Hope, Senior, Dave Gamber, Aaron Hagen, Derek Allen and Ted Lipka don't get wind of this!
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Post by oneomega on Jan 20, 2015 12:42:44 GMT -6
Getting back on the original subject... I went from 1/4 mile to 1/8 mile racing the last year MAR was open and I started running super pro. At the time I wasn't sure about the change but I liked it. I was running points at KCIR on a regular basis when they went from 1/4 to 1/8 for super pro. No problems, faster program, I liked it. I personally would really look forward to having 1/8 mile racing at Gateway on a regular basis as part of their points program. It's what I like.
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Post by 548h on Jan 20, 2015 13:52:56 GMT -6
Here is the problem I see with the combo. I think you will get 40 sp cars and only 10 or so pro cars. So either the pro car gets dumped in early or gets to run fewer rounds than the sp car. If the entries or close to even that would be great. I think it would be a great class that pays good money. However last year the second pro class was usually light on cars. He makes a valid point.
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Post by drphillips309 on Jan 20, 2015 14:28:54 GMT -6
Here is the problem I see with the combo. I think you will get 40 sp cars and only 10 or so pro cars. So either the pro car gets dumped in early or gets to run fewer rounds than the sp car. If the entries or close to even that would be great. I think it would be a great class that pays good money. However last year the second pro class was usually light on cars. He makes a valid point. Yes he does. So maybe the solution is once the pro guy wins side of the combo after 4 rounds he gets to sit out two more rounds till the box guy wins his 6th round and then they can run the final ? That mite entice more no box to race until both sides are more even ?
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Post by 338d on Jan 20, 2015 14:40:35 GMT -6
Yes he does. So maybe the solution is once the pro guy wins side of the combo after 4 rounds he gets to sit out two more rounds till the box guy wins his 6th round and then they can run the final ? That mite entice more no box to race until both sides are more even ? Not sure if that would entice more or not, but it is possible. I know at Byron it doesn't matter how many rounds each class goes, the final is always the winner of each. The semi final and 1/4 final money is what gets altered if the rounds are uneven. I think we should just wait this thing out and see what the track decides to do, heck as far as we know there may not even be a bonus class this season. As we were all told at the banquet last week, nothing is set yet, but the closest thing to a guarantee was that the main super pro points will probably be 1/8 and that's it.
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Post by rf1 on Jan 20, 2015 16:42:45 GMT -6
I had a long talk with a friend who ran Byron he told me he has never seen the combo race be more than one round of separation. ..in other words one class would have to be over 128 cars and the other under 32 to be more than that The combo race works! Anyone who has won 6 rounds shouldn't care who is in the other lane for a final Yes the cars in the lower entry class would not get paid in the 1/8ths but if classes were separated the car count would only pay 1/4 anyways. ..Byron paid round losers making it a little easier. .that's why you see a " if the race doesnt go 8 or 9 rounds disclaimer
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Post by rf1 on Jan 20, 2015 16:46:30 GMT -6
He also said they made up the round in the quarters or semis so one guy was not sitting while others were going down track
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Jan 20, 2015 17:19:12 GMT -6
The way it needs to be promoted and racers need to look at it is that it is 2 races- box and no box. If you win your class you get paid. You then get to race one more round against the other class winner for a bonus check.
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Post by rf1 on Jan 20, 2015 17:39:47 GMT -6
The way it needs to be promoted and racers need to look at it is that it is 2 races- box and no box. If you win your class you get paid. You then get to race one more round against the other class winner for a bonus check. Agree
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Post by drphillips309 on Jan 20, 2015 19:48:34 GMT -6
The way it needs to be promoted and racers need to look at it is that it is 2 races- box and no box. If you win your class you get paid. You then get to race one more round against the other class winner for a bonus check. You are correct Dennis. It really is two separate races with a "runoff " for the two winners. Because crosstalk must be used in the box side and turned off for the no box guys.
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Post by racerone on Jan 21, 2015 6:06:12 GMT -6
The way it needs to be promoted and racers need to look at it is that it is 2 races- box and no box. If you win your class you get paid. You then get to race one more round against the other class winner for a bonus check. You are correct Dennis. It really is two separate races with a "runoff " for the two winners. Because crosstalk must be used in the box side and turned off for the no box guys. Cross talk doesn't have to be on ?
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Post by drphillips309 on Jan 21, 2015 6:44:11 GMT -6
You are correct Dennis. It really is two separate races with a "runoff " for the two winners. Because crosstalk must be used in the box side and turned off for the no box guys. Cross talk doesn't have to be on ? No it doesn't don . But then everyone would just pull a lou Murray and turn on the throttle stops and be slow to get the clean tree. Let me tell you first hand if you top bulb with crosstalk off and you are the fast car , you mite as well save fuel and not even stage.
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