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Post by williams310 on May 31, 2012 8:36:55 GMT -6
I live in the St. Louis area and traveled extensively last season (rookie year) and of the 6 tracks I ran at CCD IS by far the best run, friendliest, and most fun my family has had since we started racing. I liked CCD so much better than any of the other tracks we went there 5 times last year and I am proud to call it my home track. If I had the money I would gladly travel the 3 hrs to CCD every time over the 15 mind to Gateway. Yes CCD is that much better, Rod, Darwin, and their families run a great show. After 5 outings to Gateway this year I am disappointed so far in that track.
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Post by moneyracer on May 31, 2012 8:39:38 GMT -6
colescountydragway,I have heard many rumors of threatening phone calls when people don't agree with you,offensive and threatening e-mails(and have read some of them from my friend up here)the bye run issue sat night and the latest stunt of running off someone last weekend for parking in a spot that the people were gone on vacation and were not coming anyway.Sounds to me like instead of begging for new customers,you should take care of the racers that have built the track and supported it for many years and you would probably flourish.The vibe im getting is your "bullyish attitude "is the reason the REAL loyal customers are gone.Guess the 5.0 will just stay up here in the shop
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Post by Coles County Dragway USA on May 31, 2012 9:10:15 GMT -6
colescountydragway,I have heard many rumors of threatening phone calls when people don't agree with you,offensive and threatening e-mails(and have read some of them from my friend up here)the bye run issue sat night and the latest stunt of running off someone last weekend for parking in a spot that the people were gone on vacation and were not coming anyway.Sounds to me like instead of begging for new customers,you should take care of the racers that have built the track and supported it for many years and you would probably flourish.The vibe im getting is your "bullyish attitude "is the reason the REAL loyal customers are gone.Guess the 5.0 will just stay up here in the shop Moneyracer, Seems your in the loop and speak quite similar as the "Nah Say Nancy" we have on FB. Believe what you want or find out for yourself. Not much else I can do in your situation. As far as the racer parking in someone else stall, while yes that racers was out of town he had intended on letting his brother park there. I called Tommie on the phone before Doug left and he said it was ok since Terry was going to be at Crossroads and his brother could park there. Doug was surely upset about something else before i questioned him as I could tell he was irritate when I simply asked if Tommie know he was parking in his spot. I would do the same for you if you had a paid parking stall at CCD. I'm sure if you came in the track expecting to park in a reserved spot and it was being used by someone other than the owner, you'd be upset too.
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Post by moneyracer on May 31, 2012 9:38:16 GMT -6
No loop. and don't get the nancy remark.Just have a lot of friends that I used to race with that raced there. I was just asking some the other day Why they didn't race there anymore.I don't know for sure , my info is just from talking to people and FB. Good luck with your recruitment of racers and remember, word of mouth is a lot .
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Post by dragindart on May 31, 2012 10:27:54 GMT -6
moneyracer, I have a free pass I'll mail you if you want check out the place for your self instead of listening to second hand info.
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Post by moneyracer on May 31, 2012 11:01:10 GMT -6
Dragindart, I appreciate the offer but I don't know when the next time that work will allow me to race at all , let alone make the long journey south. I was merely wondering what all the talk was about.Thanks anyway.
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Post by dennismopar73 on May 31, 2012 11:28:49 GMT -6
moneyracer, I have a free pass I'll mail you if you want check out the place for your self instead of listening to second hand info. I have been there, I have raced there, and raced long before Rod took over, I see none of these 'issues' you say , ! I'm sure that at some place and time some one has gotten some wires crossed, and are of a type who will hold a 'grudge' for silly reasons, for what ever reason you have to stay away will not go away for you, That is a shame, Rod has been here to help, seek advise, and try to help us racer always have a better track! And in turn he gets a better track ! you will never see eye to eye with everything in life, but to pursue something for such long time , that has obviuosly even occured before Rod purchase,, so please Give a fresh look at the track through set of different set of eyes!! you might find the glass is alot cleaner ! Besides, we all can and do make mistakes we try to learn and move on, such is life! it way to short to let good thing get away!
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Post by dragindart on May 31, 2012 11:56:29 GMT -6
I agree with you dennismopar73. I race there 2 to 3 times a month and I think it's great. The place is clean, they start on time, great p/a system. Friday nights are fun too. You can test, grudge race your friend, have a gamblers race. It's a racers track.
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Post by rainmant366 on May 31, 2012 13:07:02 GMT -6
Wow... I am just looking forward to the Walt Crabtree race in 2 weeks...
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Post by racing4fun on May 31, 2012 18:10:58 GMT -6
Thought I'd put my two sense on here since everyone else is. As I read through on the issues that happened last weekend all I see is members jumping the gun and assuming off of what they hear. Get the facts straight! If you go by word of mouth things get out of hand. It's not just on FB or forums just like this. Complaining on forrms don't solve anything at all. If anything, those that complain on forums gives themselves a bad impression. Why don't people just go to the source and work things out??? I thank Rod (one of CCD's owners) for explaining the issue that happened last week. The Owners/Racers can learn from this and make neccessary changes for the future. The ladder works for some and for others it didn't. That is part of learnng. Now the Owners/Racers can move on and think of another way Members should get their facts straight first and then work from there.You have an issue and feel it is wrong than work it out! Don't complain and try to make a dragstrip bad. I commend the Owners at CCD for trying to satisfy as much racers as they can. In life, we all can't have everything. But if we work together we can have an enjoyable race track!
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Post by racing4fun on May 31, 2012 18:22:37 GMT -6
Want to add that I was from another track who has seen alot of BS about how things are run. Racers got to understand that managing a race track is a very difficult thing to do. Alot of the times it has to deal with trying to please everyone. One racer wants this and the other wants that Racer gets mad at manager/owner because it didn't go their way but another racers way. This kind of BS will scare away racers/specators. It scared me away from the track I was going to all the time. I still go to my track but not like I used to. I have gone to two of CCD's Fun Nights even though my track is alot more near. I've gone to Gateway and they got a looooong way to go. So, mismanaged there! What I am saying is racers shouldn't take some of the BS that you hear on FB/Forums. Don't let these certain individuals take you away from a sport you love. Racing4Fun!
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Post by rainmant366 on Jun 1, 2012 7:30:58 GMT -6
I think there is only 2 people on here that have even been been down the track there this year...or at all....lol...Myself and Kevin.....Eager to see the new,wonderful and helpful attitudes , race conditions and of course the best Pro Payout of the season , In 2 weeks at the Walt Crabtree race... Thanks to Nikki Crabtree for the bonus money !!
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Post by racing4fun on Jun 1, 2012 11:25:02 GMT -6
Rainman, have you been there on Friday Fun Nights? If you read my statement, I've went to Friday Fun Nights at CCD. So, you can't say you and the guy Kevin is the only one. If I am correct you sound like the member on FB that always sounds pissed. From "Word of Mouth", you have been pissed for years at any owners of CCD. If you are that person, than I thought you said you're not coming to that track unless there is a big payout??? There has been no "BIG Payout" that you would go for so why did you go there at all??? Oh and if you are the person why are you fairly new on this Forum?? Guess the "Word of Mouth" wants to cause more damage. Oh and yes I am a new registered member on here too. I only viewed thie Crossbones Forum before. Felt the "Need to Speak" instead of the "Need for Speed". As far as the "new,wonderful and helpful attitudes"; it is better than bad attitudes.
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Post by rainmant366 on Jun 1, 2012 11:53:54 GMT -6
Sorry racingforfun. 3 people have been there that are commenting...Sorry I am not a fun nighter, I am a bracket racer....I was there to test about a month ago and it rained out after 2 time runs. I will only go there for bigger money as that is how my program has evolved over 25 years. I will only go ANYWHERE where it is worth it...I have a lot of money in my stuff and it costs to race. If you notice, I am not on here bashing anyone. It appears as though I am promoting it the big race coming up... Was merely stating that the ones on here complimenting, that have never been there don't know anyway. And if you have had the e-mails and phone calls that I have received (copies of both if you need proof not just "word of mouth"..... FACTS) than you would still be pissed.... I am no longer pissed at CCD or anyone there. Darwin and Stacey have appologized to me on behalf of Rod and all is good. I just wanna go there ,when the money is right, and have a good time .
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Post by Coles County Dragway USA on Jun 1, 2012 12:22:35 GMT -6
Sorry racingforfun. 3 people have been there that are commenting...Sorry I am not a fun nighter, I am a bracket racer....I was there to test about a month ago and it rained out after 2 time runs. I will only go there for bigger money as that is how my program has evolved over 25 years. I will only go ANYWHERE where it is worth it...I have a lot of money in my stuff and it costs to race. If you notice, I am not on here bashing anyone. It appears as though I am promoting it the big race coming up... Was merely stating that the ones on here complimenting, that have never been there don't know anyway. And if you have had the e-mails and phone calls that I have received (copies of both if you need proof not just "word of mouth"..... FACTS) than you would still be pissed.... I am no longer pissed at CCD or anyone there. Darwin and Stacey have appologized to me on behalf of Rod and all is good. I just wanna go there ,when the money is right, and have a good time . ALL RainmanT366 has receive e-mails and phone calls stating he was banned from CCD for several different reason and I'm sure a few choice words as we have two different views on anything to do with CCD! I've held my breath and not replied as my partner feels every ones money is good at the gate and have agree to they will handle any situation with Rainman. Since my partner doesn't get on here I wanted to make sure everyone knew Rob has received e-mails and phone calls from me that aren't very nice. I shouldn't of done it, but my frustration level had gone beyond what I could control. It was more I could take and I did go overboard in e-mails and a phone call. I'm sorry the situation happened and my self controlled wasn't strong enough to to hold back. Rob is a hell of a racer and has won many Races/Championships around the midwest. I can't/won't get into a back and forth exchange about the situation, but want to at least admit there is/was a problem and I did send e-mails and call him. Luckly its the only situation like it amoung our many happy racing family members.
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