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Post by josephlay on Jun 9, 2013 20:34:33 GMT -6
CID track management,
I have seen several comments regarding the rules in the street car class at your event at your track. Since I don't have a Facebook account I thought I would share my two cents on this forum. I think it is absurd a car would enter a street car event with a trans brake a line lock. This is for pro and super pro cars only! Who in their right mind would enter a street car race against a car that is launched electronicly... You don't stand a chance. These devices should be prohibeted! Also for a street car event the car should have DOT approved tires, mufflers, Valid registration, and a valid insurance card. These things should all be confirmed during the tech inspection.
I do race from time to time so I am not just in here causing trouble. See Coles County Dragway May 18 results for proof! However, I along with many others will not participate in a street car bracket race at your facility if a ban is not placed on electronic launch devices in street car classes.
In closing... I am a huge fan of the drag strip in Havana Il, and I want to see it succeed! I am creating this post because I fear you could be driving everyday street car racers away because they won't enter an event because they have no chance of winning against an electronicly launched car.
Very best regards,
Joseph Lay
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Post by jeremy341a on Jun 13, 2013 10:31:11 GMT -6
Ill come race it in my street car. Bottome bulb is bottom bulb to me.
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Post by 374u on Jun 13, 2013 12:07:25 GMT -6
Ill come race it in my street car. Bottome bulb is bottom bulb to me. no scanners  |
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Post by jeremy341a on Jun 13, 2013 14:32:38 GMT -6
Scanners are the matty box of ebay
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Post by josephlay on Jun 13, 2013 20:08:09 GMT -6
What does the bulb you leave on have to do with anything? Sorry not following. As long as your launching your car with a brake or clutch pedal I don't care what bulb you launch off of. My issue is people launching a car with a micro switch with their index finger... I'm sorry folks but when a street car is out on the town going for gas or a pizza, they don't pump up the brakes, set the line lock, and release the micro switch when the stop light goes green.. My point is neither should they at the track! Allowing cars to have all this technology drives away normal everyday cars because they don't stand a chance without it. Lets face it the average person has much more control and faster reaction times with their hands then they do there feet. Why do you think all construction equipment is moving towards finger tip controls? It's much more controllable! This is also why some of the street car racers at your track use it.. Because it works good and the track lets them get by with it.
Bottom line.... it is your race track, you do what you want. Just trying to help.
Very Best Regards,
Joseph Lay
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Post by chad378t on Jun 14, 2013 6:23:46 GMT -6
Joe, it's good feedback. I agree that it's a blurry line from street to sportsman and I can see how 100% stock vehicles may not want to race. I think you'll find CID is trying and will address any concerns you have. We are regulars at CID and my wife runs street & sportsman. I am not aware of anyone running a trsnbrake in either street or sportsman class. (could be wrong..it happens alot) Now line-locks are allowed.
In just looking at the rules posted omn CID's website, most of your wishes for tech are covered...
STREET DIVISION
1. CID track points only, no street class at NHRA Division 3 E.T. Finals
2. No E.T. Cap
3. Licensed vehicles onl
4. D.O.T. approved street tires
5. Complete exhaust system required
I set my wife's firebird up a little different. We run M/T ET streets which are basically a slick with grooves but they have a DOT marking. We have a line-lock but it's only for the burnout. I choose to make a different starting line controller. I have a handle in teh emergency brake slot. It uses a morse cable that goes up to the carb. Once my wife stages, she jambs the brake then pushes the handle down to tthe dead bolt I have set. It rotates the carb opem to an RPM I have set. She still has to stomp the gas to leave.
I bring this up as it may appear we have a 2-step & brake but we don't. This set up is 100% legal in NHRA stock eliminator and all footbrake classes. That is who showed it to me. Maybe it wasn't us you saw but I figured I speak up anyway. For the record...my wife got popped by a guy in a stock monte carlo both times so like Jeremy said....there is no advantage.
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Post by jeremy341a on Jun 14, 2013 7:20:23 GMT -6
Leaving with a finger on a button or your foot is no different and the only advantage is being able to set your rpm easier. As far as you thinking you have no chance if the have a button well that is the problem as the only advantage is in the worry it puts in your head. I would bet ive probably raced more cars, especially street cars, than most so i believe i have a good handle on it.
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Post by chad378t on Jun 14, 2013 9:51:44 GMT -6
X2.
I'll admit I have somewhat the same issue about big $$ racing. This is only my 2nd season in the dragster so I know my driving is not anywhere where it needs and while the GTO is a great car, I don't have the confidence to run it at those be so I won't go at all. If you think you can't win...your beat before you fire it up.
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Post by josephlay on Jun 14, 2013 11:21:55 GMT -6
Guys, Thanks for all the good feedback. I am not accusing anyone of wrong doing because they havent! Just sharing my opinion. Thank you for yours. I believe the CID track management team will take all of our positions/opinions into account and make the best decision going forward. I hope the rain stays away for them this weekend so they can do some racing business!!!
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Post by chad378t on Jun 14, 2013 11:48:18 GMT -6
Same here. Plan to test wifes car tonight then stay home tomorrow and fix all the stuff I broke on dargster last week.  |
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Post by jeremy341a on Jun 14, 2013 16:40:32 GMT -6
Notice i never said i think it should be allowed it just isnt as big of a deal to me. IMO the class should have limit on how fast you can dial on the quick side. That would help those in st cars be competitive.
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Post by billtrail on Jun 23, 2013 0:30:43 GMT -6
personal opinion as i run street at havana just about every week is sportsman and street are two dieing classes do away with both and make one footbrake class problem solved. =)
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Post by chad378t on Jun 24, 2013 6:31:15 GMT -6
That wouldn't bother us if theotal purse was higher than pro is today. I know some have several cars running various classes that would not like it.
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Post by 92ga on Jun 24, 2013 16:54:02 GMT -6
Just my opinion, which don't mean squat. Any car that runs True Street should be the way it came from the factory, period. You want to modify your car put it in the class it belongs. No headers, no dot slicks, ect ect. True street is for beginning drivers, or should be. I also said a few years ago, that street cars didn't belong in pro class, at least they finally changed that. One way to eliminate the pro drivers is to take away the money. I know 40 years ago if you didn't have the same size tires the car came from the factory with, you got moved up a class. Seems some guys always push the rules to the very limit.
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Post by jeremy341a on Jun 24, 2013 19:29:38 GMT -6
Why shouldn't street cars be allowed in pro. Isn't this bracket racing. I know when i am racing pro i would rather my opponent be in a stock vehicle than a race car.
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