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Post by billtrail on Mar 18, 2012 18:48:08 GMT -6
gee chris there goes the +++ for this post =(
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Post by hunter5050 on Mar 18, 2012 18:56:06 GMT -6
:oing
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Post by billtrail on Mar 18, 2012 19:01:58 GMT -6
not really we all knew it was coming
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Mar 18, 2012 19:15:00 GMT -6
alright fools, here's your wake up call. bill trail, how long did gateway spend to do the tech inspection on your car??? if the rest of you read some of the posts from those at gateway, you will see they did WHITE GLOVE INSPECTIONS. the cid home page warns you will get the same chicken s!!t run around there. cid is a track that draws a large crowd of bracket racers who do not have cubic dollars to spend on their cars. many can not afford to spend the $19 to $26 a foot for the roll bar padding the track will demand they. the padding they sell for $4 a foot will work just as well, but since sfi did not make money from the sale it is not safe. all drivers will have a current nhra license for that car, or they will not even be allowed to test. for every car they fail on a tech inspection who has to go home without making a pass, there is one car who is very unlikely to return. if they want a large car count, they will not get it by pi$$ing racers off. the rule of thumb should be, if the car is basically safe, let it run. minor things, have the right stuff within 30 days. that gives them time to come up with the money for the stuff, while still supporting the track. the nostalgia races are going to be run using the same rules as last year. WAIT A MINUTE, BOB DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING LAST YEAR. word is out greg does not want a multi time class champ to race there, if he does not show they will draw 4 new cars in his place. everyone was ready to hang bob because he made a change or two last year. NOW THESE FOOLS COME IN AND AND MAKE WHOLESALE CHANGES, EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK, AND ALL IS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD. IN A PIGS Last warning problemchild. People are tired the negative jabs at the track. As far as passing tech, if you can afford to run 6.40, you can afford to do it safely. Although I don't agree with all the NHRA rules, You either follow them or race somewhere else. The cheap pipe insulation DOES NOT protect you like the sfi padding in an accident. The only thing the cheap stuff is good for is bumping your head getting in and out.
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Post by chad378t on Mar 18, 2012 19:26:25 GMT -6
Hey....kudo's for gateway!!!!! Reopening is a HUGE positive. I would have loved to be there to see the first day. Really, it's the same situation CID has...Racers & old management at odss and everyone is waiting to see how things shake out.
All I know is this....any track closed is a blow to our sport. I'm done taking shots & arguing.
I got wiring almost done..install the driveline and fire it up baby!
KEEP EM OPEN & KEEP THE SMOKE ROLLIN OFF THE TIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by problemchild on Mar 18, 2012 19:28:54 GMT -6
bill and lonnie, you both need to read some of the posts from the gateway site, because i read things totally different. ten minutes to tech a 15 second stock street car.
lonnie, i'm talking about the difference between $4 a foot padding and the same car with the $19 dollar a foot padding. the car is just as safe with the less expensive padding
the little valiant will not be back, nor will the new car. how many other racers will get fed up with the dictator.
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Post by hunter5050 on Mar 18, 2012 19:56:41 GMT -6
you been warned have a good life problemchild hey lonnie lookn for a sponsor with a motorhome..winkwink
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Post by billtrail on Mar 18, 2012 20:02:06 GMT -6
i was there problem child , 2 minutes to hand over the tech card, get it signed and move on there were some s/ced heavily modded street cars that im sure took longer but when ya race at a track that has a sactioning body you got to follow there rules.Benton is the only place i can think of that doesnt tech
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Post by mattf on Mar 18, 2012 20:22:11 GMT -6
Scott Bailey-owner at I 57 said at their banquet they are gonna tech harder from now on too
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Post by lsinclair on Mar 18, 2012 20:26:17 GMT -6
i was there problem child , 2 minutes to hand over the tech card, get it signed and move on there were some s/ced heavily modded street cars that im sure took longer but when ya race at a track that has a sactioning body you got to follow there rules.Benton is the only place i can think of that doesnt tech i u would have to talk to dad on that one, but i think he would like to sell it.
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Post by bobg on Mar 18, 2012 20:57:58 GMT -6
Problem Child it may be a haul but Benton and Harrisburg are both outlaw tracks, Saturday night at Benton and Sunday at Harrisburg. I go along with a good tech inspection, I've seen my share of injuries and death in drag racing and it's not a nice thing. but I also have to say some flexability needs to be used as long as it's safe. Common sense needs to be at hand. For example a Powerglide Trans Shield or flex plate shield with an expired sticker.... the aluminum or steel don't wear out but... How about a helmet in perfect condition but the Snell sticker is expired but was good 3 months ago or a window net that was good last season. Are you going to tell the driver he needs a new one or are you going to send him packing?
I've seen NHRA pass driver suits at National Events that are totally worn and badly faided because there is no expiration on SFI 3.2-A5 jackets or pants, shoes or gloves. How does this protect the driver? Right or wrong, NHRA knows tech rules are going to be flexed, You can see several NHRA member tracks overloook the rules even on TV. Watch the in car cameras on "Pass Time" I've seen cars not even have roll bar padding, some drivers not have gloves or neck collars or window nets and run numbers faster than Super Gas and some of these tracks are National Event tracks. NHRA rules for Open face Helmets.... 9.99 and faster you must have a full face helmet. There was a racer on a recent show that ran 8.17 with an open face helmet. These are safety rules that should be observed. Tracks should enforce the rules but sometime need to find a happy medium without giving up safety.
Also... You don't need a license to make test runs as long as you tell the track official your making a pre license test run by yourself, Many racers even nitro racers make pre license test passes before they make their actual license runs. If you don't have a license use every test pass as your license run and get it over with.
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Post by probrd on Mar 18, 2012 20:59:15 GMT -6
bill and lonnie, you both need to read some of the posts from the gateway site, because i read things totally different. ten minutes to tech a 15 second stock street car. lonnie, i'm talking about the difference between $4 a foot padding and the same car with the $19 dollar a foot padding. the car is just as safe with the less expensive padding the little valiant will not be back, nor will the new car. how many other racers will get fed up with the dictator. Don't know where you get $19 a foot roll bar padding. I bought mine last year when it was first required. At Summit without the racer discount it's $19 for 3 feet and with the racer discount it's $16.70 for 3'. Not that big of a deal. Like Dennis said if you can afford to go 6.39 or faster you can afford sfi roll bar padding. If you don't go 6.39 or faster it's not required. With that said you aren't near 6.39 so why are you worrying about it??? On a positive note, I've almost got my little motor ready to put back in and the big motor will get back from the machine shop next week. Hopefully I can get it back together for opening day. Will be a little slow for a few weeks but at least I will be making passes. Can't wait!
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Post by billtrail on Mar 18, 2012 21:07:40 GMT -6
good to know your getting ready rick, make chris go out and start knocking the dust off his nova now =p
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Post by bobg on Mar 18, 2012 21:28:16 GMT -6
Here's one for you You take a new SFI approved trans shield for a Powerglide, you drill an 1/8" hole in it to mount whatever... the trans shield is now junk and won't pass NHRA tech.
But if you drill 40 screw holes in an SFI approved rear racing wheel... IS it OK? NO it isn't... NHRA will tell you the wheel is actually no longer good because you voided the SFI by drilling the holes but they also know that everyone does it.
They finally a few years ago made Pro Stock go to bead locks because modifying a wheel (drilling holes) on a car running 200 mph plus could be dangerous.
Bottom line is they still allow you to modify and use an SFI approved product (Tech Flexibility)
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Post by hunter5050 on Mar 19, 2012 7:09:23 GMT -6
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