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Post by Coles County Dragway USA on Aug 12, 2015 8:15:16 GMT -6
There's a uninformed racer on here spreading nasty rumors that we allow Delay Boxes to be used in "NO-Box" classes which is not true. If a racers wants to run S/P & Pro we do allow it too be in the car, but not used. Furthermore if some did try to use one they'd be in for rude awaking of a really bad red light or really late green light since we use a "Scrambler" in Pro. Just wanted to set the record straight and if anyone has any questions they call me at 217-512-0673.
I'm sure there are several STL racers (John Perko, Don Rauch, Terry Lacey, John Ratalouski to name a few) that would vouch for our integrity.
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Post by 69b1dart on Aug 12, 2015 12:15:36 GMT -6
I haven't seen no rumors but rod is correct,if a box was used in pro,they would have a rude awaking,rod don't play games,and keeps it fair on both sides
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Post by dennismopar73 on Aug 12, 2015 14:15:14 GMT -6
First I will respond to the 'Village Idiot ' statement I am far from that I gave you the respect of not bringing up what track or the racer or racers who had boxes in their cars For the record Make it very clear That racer had a box in his car ! It was hooked up ! An it was on sir! To call me an idiot when I did the fair thing is totally wrong Allowing car in a Non electronic class no box race is absurd even if they or he didn't use it my bet is it was there plugged in and operating in eleimation round As far as I am concerned totally wrong Everyone is right the one cheating may not be using the box you see. But when it is there and plain site in a class it doesn't belong then be ready to stand the heat of this type I went to that race because of the motion raceway reunion I raced there and out of respect I showed my support for that track and yours I wiont be called an Idiot for standing up saying what happened was wrong because it was Last I'll talk of this matter
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Post by p518 on Aug 12, 2015 15:17:54 GMT -6
Should have said something to one of the personnel at that facility on race day. I did not get out of your posts you did just that.
Regardless of the difference of opinions, name-calling really is unnecessary no matter how you feel about someone on here.
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Post by Coles County Dragway USA on Aug 12, 2015 15:53:42 GMT -6
P518 Dennis did say something to me at the track. I tried explaining, we allow them to keep Boxes in the car, but they must be off. Dennis claims the racer box was on and lit up which I know is untrue. As far as name calling I'm tired of seeing his posts always being negative against many tracks or something that makes no sense. Now he's attacking us and I probably responded inappropriately. I probably should of used "un-informed instead of Village Ixxxt.
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Post by Coles County Dragway USA on Aug 12, 2015 16:03:10 GMT -6
Dennis. This is my last response to you as I've already said I'm done with you and your comments! You are completely wrong on every aspect of your comments and to call me a liar by continuing to say the box was on or whatever is ludicrous. Furthermore to say other racers had boxes in/and on is even more false statements. You got beat by a better racer who just started this year and a rookie.
Calling you the Village Ixxxt was inappropriate and I apologies.
Lastly do not step foot on CCD property unless you can man up about your loss, lies and can apologies to the racer in question for spreading false rumors about them as they had their proudest moment at a track this past weekend with a few round wins along with all the other racers you claimed used boxes.
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Post by hunter5050 on Aug 12, 2015 16:21:18 GMT -6
Love it a track manager that speak the truth and humble enough to allow a racer to enter gates with a simple apology after trashing track and racers Makes me wanna go to ccd now 2016 is looking good for me and my son who is wanting to race bikes also
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Post by seeingred on Aug 12, 2015 16:51:01 GMT -6
If the box is allowed to be left in the car their will always be the question of use , their is no way to say beyond any shadow of doubt that the box is not being used in some manner .
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Post by dennismopar73 on Aug 12, 2015 16:58:48 GMT -6
Being beat at a race is not a issue never has been for me Having it under a shade of doubt of fairness is an issue Calling me an idiot then asking me to apologize for what I observed and came to the officials that be I wasn't in his seat to say he actually used that box only he knows I observed it saw it was plugged in and on I'm called a Lair
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Post by racerone on Aug 12, 2015 17:05:12 GMT -6
Dennis you stood your ground just like calling Some racers in pro cheaters at GMP . You might be standing your ground but to many they have lost any respect that was given to you . I know you don't care you'll stand up and stir any pot . Most racers want to race and not every track or owner or manager can please all of us so most will of us just try to get along . You dogged GMP for going 8th all year .
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Post by dennismopar73 on Aug 12, 2015 17:27:08 GMT -6
Dennis you stood your ground just like calling Some racers in pro cheaters at GMP . You might be standing your ground but to many they have lost any respect that was given to you . I know you don't care you'll stand up and stir any pot . Most racers want to race and not every track or owner or manager can please all of us so most will of us just try to get along . You dogged GMP for going 8th all year . I raced 1/8 long before I did 1/4 There was another racer there to that observed too I guess he has to appologize too for what he saw ?? You see what happens when a person stands up for fairness A beat down happens no wonder no one comes forward If you go to a racer tell him a fight ensues if you tell a track your a idiot and a liar and have to appologize. What once was good is now bad the bad is praised
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Aug 12, 2015 19:30:30 GMT -6
If the box is allowed to be left in the car their will always be the question of use , their is no way to say beyond any shadow of doubt that the box is not being used in some manner . If they are using a scambler, then using a box will make you lose. Yo will either be way late or red.
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Post by seeingred on Aug 12, 2015 19:53:25 GMT -6
If the box is allowed to be left in the car their will always be the question of use , their is no way to say beyond any shadow of doubt that the box is not being used in some manner . If they are using a scambler, then using a box will make you lose. Yo will either be way late or red. I'm by far not an expert on the subject so I will ask this does it only scramble the first to second bulb or the second to third bulb also if this is the case maybe this is part of my problem trying to get the rhythm of the ambers and going red three out of four times .
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Post by jeremy341a on Aug 12, 2015 20:00:34 GMT -6
I think it is just the top two but I am not sure. It screws me up as I watch the tree come down. I have to change my methods depending on what I'm driving.
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Post by p518 on Aug 12, 2015 20:17:10 GMT -6
Love it a track manager that speak the truth and humble enough to allow a racer to enter gates with a simple apology after trashing track and racers Makes me wanna go to ccd now 2016 is looking good for me and my son who is wanting to race bikes also Absolutely! Kudos to Rod V.
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