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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Dec 29, 2012 13:04:58 GMT -6
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Dec 29, 2012 13:11:01 GMT -6
Can-Am Spyders are now legal also. I'd like to see how one runs.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Dec 29, 2012 13:14:53 GMT -6
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Post by dennismopar73 on Dec 29, 2012 17:37:56 GMT -6
Well I am good to go with the locking dipstick!! As for the street stock rules put that in there for the copo cars and the challengers and mustangs I guess,, lol
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Post by dennismopar73 on Dec 29, 2012 17:39:06 GMT -6
the spyder just a snowmobile on wheel anyways!! LOL
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 29, 2012 20:29:25 GMT -6
Well I am good to go with the locking dipstick!! As for the street stock rules put that in there for the copo cars and the challengers and mustangs I guess,, lol WTF? The COPO Camaros and the Mustangs and the Dodges are the farthest things from Street Stock there is. I think what they are referring to may be the big numbers of actual street cars that are showing up now a days that these kids are driving to the track and cruising around town in that are very capable of running deep in the 10's and I've seen some of them through a few high 9's on the board. With the technology out there these cars are making 600-700 RWHP on the motor and then they are throwing either Turbos or spray to it as well. Saw a guy at MM drive his G8 in and put a 10.18 @ 134 on the scoreboard, no cage, no loop very little safety equipment if any.
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Post by drphillips309 on Dec 29, 2012 21:06:57 GMT -6
I agree with the real daily drivers shouldn't need to be destroyed by welding in a cage in a bone stock mustang gt with a 150 shot that runs mid 10s or a $100,000 CTS-V . The have plenty of safety devices built in from the factory.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Dec 30, 2012 9:41:05 GMT -6
SG3526 and Drphillips,
The rule is for "Unaltered 2008 OEM model year and newer production cars"
The 150 shot makes the car "altered". The G8 you talk about has been bounced more than once for going too fast.
The way I read the rule is for 100% stock cars. Meaning no mods at all.
This does bring up another question. This is a rule for the "NHRA DRAGS: STREET LEGAL STYLE PRESENTED BY AAA". Does that mean it doesn't apply to the bracket program? If so, a guy that runs 11.30's legally on Wed night T&T, can't run in pro on Sat night. There will be tracks that use this rule to allow cars to bypass safety rules. What happens when the 11.30 guy shows up at Indy for the Div 3 finals and they fail him for no roll bar?
This also brings up the arguement on why do they have different rules for different events? Why does the guy who bracket races for a few hundred to win have to buy all the safety gear, sfi rated flywheels, balancers, belts, trans shields, chassis certs, physicals, licenses and so on but the T&T racer or the fspecial event outlaw racer with the $300,000 tow rig and $100,000 car doesn't?
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 30, 2012 10:18:52 GMT -6
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Post by dennismopar73 on Dec 30, 2012 13:56:57 GMT -6
I agree with the real daily drivers shouldn't need to be destroyed by welding in a cage in a bone stock mustang gt with a 150 shot that runs mid 10s or a $100,000 CTS-V . The have plenty of safety devices built in from the factory. (quote),,WTF? The COPO Camaros and the Mustangs and the Dodges are the farthest things from Street Stock there is. I think what they are referring to may be the big numbers of actual street cars that are showing up now a days that these kids are driving to the track and cruising around town in that are very capable of running deep in the 10's and I've seen some of them through a few high 9's on the board. With the technology out there these cars are making 600-700 RWHP on the motor and then they are throwing either Turbos or spray to it as well. Saw a guy at MM drive his G8 in and put a 10.18 @ 134 on the scoreboard, no cage, no loop very little safety equipment if any.(quote) (quote),This also brings up the arguement on why do they have different rules for different events? Why does the guy who bracket races for a few hundred to win have to buy all the safety gear, sfi rated flywheels, balancers, belts, trans shields, chassis certs, physicals, licenses and so on but the T&T racer or the fspecial event outlaw racer with the $300,000 tow rig and $100,000 car doesn't?(quote) Well do not have the money money to run those types of cars,,, and being there is just a hand full , like,, @ 8 that runs with the N H R A deal and same with A D R L, my dog not in the fight,, I value my life a little bit more than a time ticket . Beings I live to much in the 70s I guess I'm just to old to accept new technology LOL
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Post by 69b1dart on Dec 30, 2012 14:01:40 GMT -6
im stiil in the 70s too,maybee early 80s
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Post by jeremy341a on Dec 30, 2012 14:45:59 GMT -6
Production cars or not, dead is dead. If a certain speed requires safety requirements than it should for all cars. Imo the et limits are out of touch. If i go 4.49 @ 150 in the 1/8th or 7.50 @ 181 in the quarter in which crash do I stand the greater chance of being hurt yet in which case am I required to have additional equipment. I feel safety reuirements should be based on speed and not et.
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 30, 2012 16:34:46 GMT -6
Someone once told me that they are more lax with the new cars to try to get some of these younger people involved in our sport. Look around the pits guys....it's getting pretty gray around there, new cars and people just aren't getting into bracket racing anymore. It's all about going out in ideal conditions and throwing up a big number for bragging rights.
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