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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Nov 7, 2014 21:09:11 GMT -6
IL voters voted to increase minimum wage to $10. It is a nonbinding vote, basically an opinion poll. If it is made law GMP will have to raise entries to cover the additional costs. Any thoughts on this?
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Post by drphillips309 on Nov 8, 2014 7:24:08 GMT -6
In my opinion they deserve $10 an hour it is hard work being on the drag crew. I have done it and would not work in the sun on concrete for any less.
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Post by moparsz on Nov 8, 2014 7:26:20 GMT -6
Even if it doesn't go to $10 an hour I still think it's going to be higher entry and less payout
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Post by drphillips309 on Nov 8, 2014 8:15:47 GMT -6
Even if it doesn't go to $10 an hour I still think it's going to be higher entry and less payout Why less payout? I can see raising entry fees but don't cut payout. No need for both |
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Post by moparsz on Nov 8, 2014 8:23:40 GMT -6
The last 2 races all the classes were less payout. Max sportsman could of had was $300 and if we didn't have I think 45 cars it was $250 and only paid to semis
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Nov 8, 2014 9:32:53 GMT -6
In my opinion they deserve $10 an hour it is hard work being on the drag crew. I have done it and would not work in the sun on concrete for any less. While I agree with you, it raises the pay of every employee on grounds that makes less than $10. Even if it's sitting in the AC answering phones. We hire part time people to pick up trash, weed eat and other jobs like that. I bet the cleaning crew doesn't make $10. If you already have employees making $10 they aren't going to be happy making minimum wage. They will want a raise to make more than the guy that just walked through the door. I could see concession prices going even higher. It could add up to an extra hundreds of dollars a week. When wages go up, insurance, Workman's Comp and other costs go up also. |
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Post by moparsz on Nov 8, 2014 11:17:50 GMT -6
And there goes inflation
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Post by drphillips309 on Nov 8, 2014 12:30:36 GMT -6
Here is an idea . get rid of the time clock like in the 1990s you get paid a certain amount of money per event no matter how long it goes. The you can hand pick who gets paid more based on the difficulty of the job? Harder the work more money you make. The announcer only makes say 60% of say a starting line worker? And maybe have a tip jar? I used to tip the timeslip guys all the time. Then along came live timing . Lol
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Nov 8, 2014 15:09:48 GMT -6
Here is an idea . get rid of the time clock like in the 1990s you get paid a certain amount of money per event no matter how long it goes. The you can hand pick who gets paid more based on the difficulty of the job? Harder the work more money you make. The announcer only makes say 60% of say a starting line worker? And maybe have a tip jar? I used to tip the timeslip guys all the time. Then along came live timing . Lol I don't think that is legal. Why should a GMP employee make less than a Mc D's employee. |
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Post by doughboy692 on Nov 9, 2014 16:37:58 GMT -6
Here is an idea . get rid of the time clock like in the 1990s you get paid a certain amount of money per event no matter how long it goes. The you can hand pick who gets paid more based on the difficulty of the job? Harder the work more money you make. The announcer only makes say 60% of say a starting line worker? And maybe have a tip jar? I used to tip the timeslip guys all the time. Then along came live timing . Lol I don't think that is legal. Why should a GMP employee make less than a Mc D's employee. It is and at the same time its not legal. Its legal as long as wages divided by hours still meets min wage if it does not its illegal. We are looking at having to give 25 employees a 1.75 raise. We went through this the last time min wage went up and had employees that threatened to quit if they did not get the raise too. We have already told all of the employees at the restaurant that they will be out of a job and our restaurant will close the day before this goes into the effect. If it does go into effect. There is no way we can squeeze another 2500 a week out of it to make this raise. Which is what it is when you consider wages, SS, unemployment ins increase ect ect. I have told the kids that work for me at the shop as well as over at the farm they are gone too. I hate to do it but we are left with little choice. That said I dont think it will happen. I like the republican plan which is to do it over a number of years and only for employees 25 years of age and older. There is no way in hell a high school idiot who asks "do you want fries with that" should be getting 10 dollars per hour. Anybody who makes around 9.25 or more a hour who voted for this is just plain crazy. All you did is vote yourself a cost of living increase. Because prices are going to have to go up to cover this. Most people who make 10 dollars a hour or more will see nothing but increased costs. Those who make between 9.25 and 9.99 will get a raise but it will not be enough to cover the increase in cost of living. Its sounds like a great idea until figure out the reality of it. |
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Nov 20, 2014 19:10:39 GMT -6
Remember Spinal Tap said their amps were louder because they went to "11"? Well seems the state of IL agrees with them. They passed a bill through the house that will take minimum wage to $11 an hour by 2017. It will go to $10 by July next year for everybody over 18. Now it's a matter of making it though the rest of the process.
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Post by eticket on Nov 21, 2014 6:00:50 GMT -6
Make everyone contract employees. It eliminates SSI, medicare, medacade and negates min. wage and makes the workers responsible for their own taxes not the business owner. Years ago that's how I got started.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Nov 21, 2014 7:18:46 GMT -6
It will be a benefit low wage workers that live in surrounding states near the border. If they make $8 or $9 they can come into IL and make more money yet live where the cost of living will be cheaper. In turn, it will hurt the current mw workers in IL that are not the best employees. They may lose their jobs from better workers from neighboring states.
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Post by doughboy692 on Nov 22, 2014 9:24:14 GMT -6
Make everyone contract employees. It eliminates SSI, medicare, medacade and negates min. wage and makes the workers responsible for their own taxes not the business owner. Years ago that's how I got started. Sounds like a great plan. Except for one thing. It is illegal and the state of IL looks for it. |
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Post by eticket on Nov 24, 2014 6:11:28 GMT -6
Being a contract employee is not illegal as long as they can meet the 20 factor analysis or fall in the safe haven rule. That being said you are correct that the GMP employees cannot by definition of their job descriptions meet these defined criteria and could not be considered a contract employee. If hired as contract employees it would make both the employer and employee contract illegal.
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