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Post by dragindart on Aug 21, 2012 8:20:57 GMT -6
The reason for the question about delay boxes is because a statement was made during the spring event saying delay boxes and cars as new as 1980 were going to be allowed during the fall event. Spectator attendance is always bigger at nostalgia events because it's always been older cars and no electronics... if you allow electronics and newer model cars then all you have is a bracket race. Well said Bob,Let the no box guys have a day to themselves,Its a good deal something for everybody that weekend run both days just put the box back in for Sunday.I do have to say when you look at the flier on the cid website its not clear about weather or not a person can have a box or not.Nqsa defiantly no box.For the 2 other classes there is not clarification weather you can have a box I think they need to make things clearer to the racers,on boxes or no boxes and pro or full tree I totally agree. I think everyting should be no box that day. The reason I ask the question was because a fellow racer told me they were considering letting boxes in the 7.49 and faster class. |
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Post by bantam32 on Aug 21, 2012 8:51:15 GMT -6
Well said Bob,Let the no box guys have a day to themselves,Its a good deal something for everybody that weekend run both days just put the box back in for Sunday.I do have to say when you look at the flier on the cid website its not clear about weather or not a person can have a box or not.Nqsa defiantly no box.For the 2 other classes there is not clarification weather you can have a box I think they need to make things clearer to the racers,on boxes or no boxes and pro or full tree I totally agree. I think everyting should be no box that day. The reason I ask the question was because a fellow racer told me they were considering letting boxes in the 7.49 and faster class. I think they should not even think about "considering" boxes for saturday,leave it for Sunday,You know when you leave boxes in cars and somebody gets beats without a box against a guy that leaves it in taped over or zeroed HERE STARTS MORE DRAMA ! between 2 racers and the track management.My suggestion is to keep drama to a minimum,If the track lets the boxes stay then they are exposing themselves to Drama.  |
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Post by bantam32 on Aug 21, 2012 9:21:51 GMT -6
When you leave boxes in and run a full tree and there is a grand on the line how tempting is it to use the box ? Sorry but I DONT TRUST ANYBODY !,Unless they have a guy sitting on the line checking to see when a person is coming off the button every pass which aint gonna happen how reassuring is that ? That is why a pro tree helps if you are leaving boxes in,Some guys can go red on a pro tree also so they do used boxes on a pro tree in certain cases. Im not stirring the pot and I will race how ever,but every nostaglia race I have been to No boxes or Pro tree index or at least no box dial I feel leaving the boxes in for saturday is a bad choice or let us run a pro tree with the boxes in,Its to easy to un zero the box or flip up the tape and use the box.
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Post by problemchild on Aug 21, 2012 9:24:31 GMT -6
George, you may have been thinking about what they call a period correct race weekend. door cars and some funny cars had collectors on the headers as far back as the early 60s if my memory is right. mopar had a factory hood scoop for the max wedge motors in 63 or 64.
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Post by wheelsup on Aug 21, 2012 12:02:37 GMT -6
My vote is 500 pro tree and no box. 400 pro tree would be ok too as long as they allow deep staging.
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Post by bantam32 on Aug 21, 2012 12:46:45 GMT -6
My vote is 500 pro tree and no box. 400 pro tree would be ok too as long as they allow deep staging. SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER ;D |
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Post by dragindart on Aug 21, 2012 13:33:28 GMT -6
Yep.
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Post by pro19nova67 on Aug 21, 2012 13:48:32 GMT -6
I accidentally commented on another post thinking it was about this race. This is the one I was wondering if its going to be pro tree or if there's a possibility of it being voted full tree again. During the drivers meeting in the spring they did say delay boxes would be allowed for the fall nostalgia race. Kind of like the spring race was for bottom bulbers and the fall race is for the box guys. Sounds fair to me but I wont lie, pro tree sure sounds like fun.
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Post by stevemaas on Aug 21, 2012 13:53:52 GMT -6
The reason for the question about delay boxes is because a statement was made during the spring event saying delay boxes and cars as new as 1980 were going to be allowed during the fall event. Spectator attendance is always bigger at nostalgia events because it's always been older cars and no electronics... if you allow electronics and newer model cars then all you have is a bracket race. I see your point, but you may as well figure 1/2 the cars then if you they cant leave their box in the car. Mine is hard wired in and I wouldnt even attempt to pull it out for that event. |
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Post by bantam32 on Aug 21, 2012 14:35:03 GMT -6
The reason for the question about delay boxes is because a statement was made during the spring event saying delay boxes and cars as new as 1980 were going to be allowed during the fall event. Spectator attendance is always bigger at nostalgia events because it's always been older cars and no electronics... if you allow electronics and newer model cars then all you have is a bracket race. I see your point, but you may as well figure 1/2 the cars then if you they cant leave their box in the car. Mine is hard wired in and I wouldnt even attempt to pull it out for that event. I see your point on taking out the box can be a pain,But we are talking Saturday only Sunday everything goes back to regulat bracket racing,I have my box on a quick disconnect for that reason to run both days.So to satify both sides of the fence PRO TREE ! At least in the faster class & leave your box in ! |
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Post by stevemaas on Aug 21, 2012 15:53:55 GMT -6
Expect a low car count on one of the busiest races of the year (spectater wise) if box cars are not allowed to compete. Someone at the starting line can always check to see if the box is zeroed out if it is necessary. Saturday is the best night to go.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Aug 21, 2012 16:55:25 GMT -6
The reason for the question about delay boxes is because a statement was made during the spring event saying delay boxes and cars as new as 1980 were going to be allowed during the fall event. Spectator attendance is always bigger at nostalgia events because it's always been older cars and no electronics... if you allow electronics and newer model cars then all you have is a bracket race. I see your point, but you may as well figure 1/2 the cars then if you they cant leave their box in the car. Mine is hard wired in and I wouldnt even attempt to pull it out for that event. Exactly why MCR added a "Pro Nostalgia" class. That way the no-box nostalgia guys can have their class and you can still make money on the nostalgia looking cars with boxes. Why send good money away that weekend? As far as spectators, they have no idea what goes on inside the cars. Most spectators don't even know what a delay box is. Are you going to ban modern engines or new fuel injection? Where do you draw the line? How about cars with modern mag wheels. A spectator will notice those. I understand why somebody would suggest 1980 and older. The older cars are getting harder to find. To somebody that is 25-30 years old, 1980 is an old car. Most people on here would consider a car that is older than them an old car. |
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Post by 92ga on Aug 21, 2012 17:04:26 GMT -6
Expect a low car count on one of the busiest races of the year (spectater wise) if box cars are not allowed to compete. Someone at the starting line can always check to see if the box is zeroed out if it is necessary. Saturday is the best night to go. Steve, I have my sons box wired with a by pass plug, and it only takes a few seconds to remove it. Anybody that runs a box, can do the same thing. The few times we ran my Grand Am back to back in S/pro Pro we removed the box every pass. The velcro out thesedays works pretty good. |
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Aug 21, 2012 17:20:12 GMT -6
I belive quick disconnects on a delay box are actually illegal by NHRA rules.
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Post by stevemaas on Aug 21, 2012 17:22:15 GMT -6
When it comes to wiring stuff like it I have no clue how to do that
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