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Post by hunter5050 on Jul 12, 2012 16:53:19 GMT -6
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Post by problemchild on Jul 12, 2012 17:16:55 GMT -6
that will make a very big difference in track prep, allowing them to remove rocks and sand blown on the track.
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Post by bobg on Jul 12, 2012 19:45:42 GMT -6
Absolutly, That would be one of the best investments they could make. Although changing back to VHT is a big step in the right direction, if they don't clean the track before they spray it... it won't make the kind of difference their looking for.
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Post by stevemaas on Jul 12, 2012 20:47:09 GMT -6
They need something to drag the track surface with. I heard Greg was looking for used slicks to make some sort of contraption to drag the track with? Any follow-up on that?
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Post by bobg on Jul 12, 2012 21:26:13 GMT -6
Theres not a thing wrong with dragging the big tractor tire up and down the track behind a pickup truck, it weighs almost 800 lbs and it lays rubber down on the track and scrubs it as it's being dragged.
Because of the compound used drag slicks won't work as good as road racing tires, besides the track has a drag box to go behind the tractor but the problem is the tractor isn't powerful enough to drag it after the weight is applied.
They'll end up burning up the hydrostat in the tractor.
We dragged that tire up and down the track several times when the track surface was less than a week old, sprayed the track and ran several blown cars on it all weekend with a 4.02 et best
Not bad for a brand new surface that some said wouldn't hook at all that soon.
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Post by hunter5050 on Jul 13, 2012 10:23:14 GMT -6
new bigger tractor with sweeper on front like above and a drag on the back.all on 1 piece of equipment and 10-15 to use inbetween rounds and not hillbilly ways of sweeping(by hand or some hard tractor tire))track that can take up to a hour+ and still no results.the truck race tore up the track and the jrs had a race after them and rubber beebees all over the track,showed up the next WEEK and same beebee crap(had to scrape tires every round with no time to even fuel the cars/nothing like being rushed),.took around 5-6 passes by jrs and a pitbike race to bairlly clean the the track.plus what mother nature put on the track that week...sand.word is frank said BETTER prep equipment in the future,we,ll see
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Post by wheelsup on Jul 13, 2012 10:36:06 GMT -6
I am getting a ride on sweeper for the track. It has the brush and vacuum. I pick it up next week and will get it to the track as soon as I get it all checked out. It is not a small unit but one you actually drive. It has been sitting for several years so I need to get it checked out. Hopefully it will not have any major issues and I can put new battery and fresh fuel in it and it will all be good. May have to replace some hydraulic hoses. It has new brushes that come with it. This should really help on getting track prepped.
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Post by hunter5050 on Jul 13, 2012 10:54:18 GMT -6
COOL
check this link out .wish it would be this fast
i think thats wim wilkerson testing??no a force car?
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Post by sp7128 on Jul 13, 2012 11:29:35 GMT -6
"The bristles are 50/50 polypropylene, crimped wire"
You don't want that thing near a dragstrip, pit area or slick tire...those metal wires go right thru a slick, GMP had one of those years ago and all it did was leave wire bristles everywhere
You can brush a track all you want..until soap and water are put on it and the dust, gravel, rubber pieces, grease, etc are washed off, all you're going to do is push the dirt to a different area of the racing surface, soon to be drug back into the path of vehicles
Would you expect your house to be clean, if you let the beaterbar in the vacuum spin and didn't turn on the suction part of the vacuum?
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Post by hunter5050 on Jul 13, 2012 11:44:10 GMT -6
"The bristles are 50/50 polypropylene, crimped wire" You don't want that thing near a dragstrip, pit area or slick tire...those metal wires go right thru a slick, GMP had one of those years ago and all it did was leave wire bristles everywhere You can brush a track all you want..until soap and water are put on it and the dust, gravel, rubber pieces, grease, etc are washed off, all you're going to do is push the dirt to a different area of the racing surface, soon to be drug back into the path of vehicles Would you expect your house to be clean, if you let the beaterbar in the vacuum spin and didn't turn on the suction part of the vacuum? maybe not that one but you get the idea.sounds like wheelsup has something to help with a vacuum.if it needs parts and different brush so be it,better than doing nothing at all |
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Post by 69b1dart on Jul 13, 2012 12:52:55 GMT -6
asphalting the pits would help
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Post by problemchild on Jul 13, 2012 14:29:56 GMT -6
that whole area is nothing but a LARGE sand box. if the pits were paved you would still get sand blown on the surface from the near by fields, or from ants expanding or building a new nest
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Jul 13, 2012 16:09:14 GMT -6
"The bristles are 50/50 polypropylene, crimped wire" You don't want that thing near a dragstrip, pit area or slick tire...those metal wires go right thru a slick, GMP had one of those years ago and all it did was leave wire bristles everywhere You can brush a track all you want..until soap and water are put on it and the dust, gravel, rubber pieces, grease, etc are washed off, all you're going to do is push the dirt to a different area of the racing surface, soon to be drug back into the path of vehicles Would you expect your house to be clean, if you let the beaterbar in the vacuum spin and didn't turn on the suction part of the vacuum? I was just going to post a warning on the wire bristles. |
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Post by bobg on Jul 13, 2012 17:02:55 GMT -6
Hillbilly or not... If it's not in the budget then it can't happen, UNTIL you can come up with a unit that can apply rubber to the track surface, the tractor tire will work just fine.
And it don't cost anything.
Jacklyn used it for a few years we used it last year... bottom line it lays rubber down and does a good job.
A vacuum truck like a one ton pickup truck size would be a major step in the right direction as long as it's not a big street commercial unit or one of those big pelican style units... their way too heavy for the track surface and the turns will tear up the track in hotter weather.
A simple broom on the front of the tractor would work wonders.
They also make walk behind vacs like they use in court yards and sidewalks.
And yes your 100% correct, NO WIRE BRISTLES, you can't see them very easy laying on a black surface and they'll take a slick out at high speed in a heartbeat.
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Post by pro19nova67 on Jul 13, 2012 17:45:51 GMT -6
Have you guys seen what Charleston uses to put rubber down?  |
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