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Post by bartc on Feb 16, 2014 0:44:58 GMT -6
Are there any restrictions on using a blinder to block the top 2 amber lights at gateway or other tracks for bracket racing.
And if not, what approach works best?
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Post by dennismopar73 on Feb 16, 2014 6:46:36 GMT -6
Sure there is ,some track use a blind side tree
Some even have staggered tree activation,
Even flash burst to disturb photo cells and other illegal devices.
Tracks do these things to defeat illegal activity
they know goes on .
Funny that all these items cost tracks money, money that should be used else where.
No matter what is used , there very easy ways to get around the defeating devices.
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Post by dennismopar73 on Feb 16, 2014 7:26:59 GMT -6
Some racers use their own versions , ie, sunvisor , blockof helmet which could be illegal?
Windshield blocking
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Post by bartc on Feb 16, 2014 9:12:50 GMT -6
Some racers use their own versions , ie, sunvisor , blockof helmet which could be illegal? Windshield blocking Just to be clear. I believe you are saying that any attempt to intentionally block the line of sight to the tree is probably illlegal in bracket racing and if not illegal, sounds like poor sportsman ship. Is this what you are saying? So if while racing, I see an opponet use his sun visor or piece of cardboard or tape on his/her helment to gain an advantage at the starting line, what should I do??? Or is the track official supposed to be watching for this sort of stuff. What are your thoughts here? |
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Feb 16, 2014 9:41:34 GMT -6
There might be a rule about modifying a shield on a helmet. I think racerone ran into this at Indy years ago. He had a sun visor that he had made and they said it wasn't legal. You can use the factory visor. There was an altered that had blinders on hinges. The driver would flip up one depending on which lane he was using. When he left the line the blinder would flip down.
I've had black vinyl on the windshields of cars that I have raced before. I also had a 4 or 6" strip on the top of the driver's side window to block the afternoon sun at GMP. Nothing was ever said about either.
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Post by bracketracing on Feb 16, 2014 10:47:42 GMT -6
Bartc sometimes information on here is to stir the pot. Just my honest opinion. Some make it sound like everyone is cheating. Well I've been racing for a long time and if I thought someone was cheating I would let an official know. Not sit back and make general statements on everyone cheats. They don't and to be honest most of the racers will help you to be better because we all want our sport to grow.
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Post by Crossbones Dennis on Feb 16, 2014 11:11:40 GMT -6
When the tree wasn't blinded and I was racing a street car, sometimes you would get in a situation where the dial-ins were close. Let's say within a tenth. It was distracting having both sides of the tree coming down at almost the same time but just a little off. I would hold up my log book to block the other lane to keep the bulbs from distracting me.
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Post by bartc on Feb 16, 2014 17:55:57 GMT -6
Bartc sometimes information on here is to stir the pot. Just my honest opinion. Some make it sound like everyone is cheating. Well I've been racing for a long time and if I thought someone was cheating I would let an official know. Not sit back and make general statements on everyone cheats. They don't and to be honest most of the racers will help you to be better because we all want our sport to grow. thanks, I dont 't want to show up and do something stupid and be the cause of some drama. |
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Post by bracketracing on Feb 16, 2014 18:43:57 GMT -6
Don't worry you won't. If something comes up just be honest
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Post by dennismopar73 on Feb 17, 2014 7:11:33 GMT -6
Just as Windows being tinted as to not seeing the driver, some things are by safety for you and others on track.
No I don't think everyone is cheating, but some are, and do and at every track
Thus tracks having certain items at their disposal to keep cheating to min .
You can tell officials all you want to about certain cars having devices, but unless you are willing to put up some cash, they won't look,, and if they did , they would not know where or how to look !
Most track officials knows but unwilling to do anything due to loss of a racers or racers even if a racers is just accused of such.
Back to the topic,,,
Greg Anderson, has a helmet that had been highly modifyed I'm surprised the nuts allowed such but the windshields, cannot be obstructed
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Post by sg3526 on Feb 17, 2014 10:07:49 GMT -6
Stock, Super Stock and Comp racers use some type of blinder if you will to block off the other side of the tree and some use it block off everything except the bottom bulb on their side of the tree. A lot of Super Class racers have some type of blinder that they use to block out most of the area around the tree so that there is no distractions while focusing on the tree. I saw one at the National event in St. Louis last year that had this thing on his visor that blocked out everything while he had the visor up but once he pulled it down it was unobstructed. If you ever get the chance look at Dave Connolly's helmet, it's taped down to about a third of it's normal width so he only sees the tree.
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Post by rf1 on Feb 17, 2014 20:22:30 GMT -6
BartC I can hook you up with all the latest tricks and gadgets available and you will still be 100% legal......heck you'll have so many gadgets when I'm done with your car that D73 will protest you (to no avail) immediately......let the crying begin
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Post by bartc on Feb 18, 2014 1:12:55 GMT -6
BartC I can hook you up with all the latest tricks and gadgets available and you will still be 100% legal......heck you'll have so many gadgets when I'm done with your car that D73 will protest you (to no avail) immediately......let the crying begin cool hook me up!!! I'll be the Rodney Dangerfield of GatewayMSP... do you have a naked lady shifter? |
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Post by sg3526 on Feb 19, 2014 22:40:11 GMT -6
BartC I can hook you up with all the latest tricks and gadgets available and you will still be 100% legal......heck you'll have so many gadgets when I'm done with your car that D73 will protest you (to no avail) immediately......let the crying begin Hell hook me up, I need to get past Holloran |
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Post by rf1 on Feb 20, 2014 14:44:15 GMT -6
I was referring to blinders and gadgets to help with bottom bulbing.....I can't help anybody let go on time....lol
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