nutup
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Post by nutup on Mar 1, 2015 20:25:40 GMT -6
Who is supposed take care of public relations? How about posting info on the actual web site it seems public relations or advertisement is half ass at best. Good thing we have crossbones for info
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Post by 338d on Mar 1, 2015 20:30:55 GMT -6
I know there site is not the best, but what are you looking for?
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Post by rf1 on Mar 1, 2015 20:34:15 GMT -6
Wanna bet this new guy they just announced will make absolutely no difference in our world!
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Post by nutup on Mar 1, 2015 20:42:24 GMT -6
I know there site is not the best, but what are you looking for? Was just checking Gateways web site thinking about some of the special events that is supposed to happen all I found was page not found |
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Post by drphillips309 on Mar 1, 2015 21:16:28 GMT -6
Wanna bet this new guy they just announced will make absolutely no difference in our world! What new guy? |
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Post by bracketracing on Mar 1, 2015 21:33:04 GMT -6
Some advertising guy from InBev
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Post by drphillips309 on Mar 2, 2015 7:58:10 GMT -6
Some advertising guy from InBev Great . Every since they bought AB they have basically pulled out of all Motorsports. |
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Post by dennismopar73 on Mar 2, 2015 10:02:02 GMT -6
Some advertising guy from InBev Great . Every since they bought AB they have basically pulled out of all Motorsports. No return of investment on sponsorship is bottom line ! Bud does do a lot of sponsorship , in all kinds of racing Including drag racing Just not to the degree it once was Carl's 4x4 used to be a great sponsor in pro class What happened there. ? As well as others Reason is real clear Go look at the bleachers no one there hard to advertized sponsor classes when few cars let alone spectators are there The excitement is gone |
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Post by 396z on Mar 2, 2015 12:34:45 GMT -6
The excitement is gone? I believe all it takes is a little bit of creative thinking and marketing. Remember when the ADRL gave away tickets for free and you couldn't even get into the place? Remember Pinks all out coming to town and limited entries to 400? Sold all 400 in a few hours and then filled the stands? See the interest Street outlaws have created? Is it really that difficult? Why is it that only an outside interests can develop a race and fill the stands? You have an incredible racing facility and plenty of people who want to race there. It's up to the track to figure out how to make some real money and generate interest rather than relying on racers to bring some spectators along with them. The Baby Boomers are retiring and sitting around with nothing to do and for the most part, we are racing all the cars they drove and dreamed about. Muscle cars and Hot Rods. Seems like there is some money to be made there instead of buying into the BS that racing is dying and there's no interest. You just have to package it into something people want to be involved with. There are local car cruises and car shows every weekend all around town. Ever think about letting any spectators in for free who show up in a pre 1980s car? Maybe free coupons for spectators at the NAPA counter? I'm not even a Marketing guy and I bet I can come up with a different promotion for every weekend in the Summer.
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Post by drphillips309 on Mar 2, 2015 14:21:53 GMT -6
I think dan phelps said it best. He said they think every time the gates open they should make money. Sometimes in business not everyday is a profitable. You have to be willing to risk alittle every now and then. Some ideas work some don't. Never even trying a decent points fund in the first three years. Of course nobody signs up for points. Or has incentives to make every single race like the old days.
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Post by 338d on Mar 2, 2015 14:29:29 GMT -6
The excitement is gone? I believe all it takes is a little bit of creative thinking and marketing. Remember when the ADRL gave away tickets for free and you couldn't even get into the place? Remember Pinks all out coming to town and limited entries to 400? Sold all 400 in a few hours and then filled the stands? See the interest Street outlaws have created? Is it really that difficult? Why is it that only an outside interests can develop a race and fill the stands? You have an incredible racing facility and plenty of people who want to race there. It's up to the track to figure out how to make some real money and generate interest rather than relying on racers to bring some spectators along with them. The Baby Boomers are retiring and sitting around with nothing to do and for the most part, we are racing all the cars they drove and dreamed about. Muscle cars and Hot Rods. Seems like there is some money to be made there instead of buying into the BS that racing is dying and there's no interest. You just have to package it into something people want to be involved with. There are local car cruises and car shows every weekend all around town. Ever think about letting any spectators in for free who show up in a pre 1980s car? Maybe free coupons for spectators at the NAPA counter? I'm not even a Marketing guy and I bet I can come up with a different promotion for every weekend in the Summer. This is 100% correct! I have been saying it for many years that the opportunity is there, but they have to want to make it happen, it just won't on its own. I really don't think it would be that difficult to put a couple hundred people in the stands for a Saturday night race! |
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Post by dennismopar73 on Mar 2, 2015 15:03:17 GMT -6
ADRL IS GONE !
Wasnt profitable !
Pinks gone ! Everyone hated it never liked either program!
But was great entertainment !
The free admissions great but that don't pay bills
Money made on popcorn beer soda won't do it guys
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Post by p518 on Mar 2, 2015 15:58:02 GMT -6
The excitement is gone? I believe all it takes is a little bit of creative thinking and marketing. Remember when the ADRL gave away tickets for free and you couldn't even get into the place? Remember Pinks all out coming to town and limited entries to 400? Sold all 400 in a few hours and then filled the stands? See the interest Street outlaws have created? Is it really that difficult? Why is it that only an outside interests can develop a race and fill the stands? You have an incredible racing facility and plenty of people who want to race there. It's up to the track to figure out how to make some real money and generate interest rather than relying on racers to bring some spectators along with them. The Baby Boomers are retiring and sitting around with nothing to do and for the most part, we are racing all the cars they drove and dreamed about. Muscle cars and Hot Rods. Seems like there is some money to be made there instead of buying into the BS that racing is dying and there's no interest. You just have to package it into something people want to be involved with. There are local car cruises and car shows every weekend all around town. Ever think about letting any spectators in for free who show up in a pre 1980s car? Maybe free coupons for spectators at the NAPA counter? I'm not even a Marketing guy and I bet I can come up with a different promotion for every weekend in the Summer. You sound like a (good) marketing guy!  Some people say the excitement is gone because it is gone for them or they don't want to or cannot participate. |
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Post by 396z on Mar 2, 2015 16:46:49 GMT -6
You're are missing the point Dennis. I know ADRL and Pinks are gone and I hate Street racing. I don't own a Pro Mod and I thought Pinks was a dumb race. They are examples of what can be done if you use your brain and not just sit there waiting for magic to happen because you opened the gates...Fill the stands, make it something people want to be involved with, then you make money. Empty seats sure don't make a lot of money.
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Post by nutup on Mar 2, 2015 17:08:40 GMT -6
I know there is different ways to run the place. But don't you think putting info on your own web site would be a start to drawing a few spectators. They can't seem to stick to a plan. I would like to know how super chevy and some of the other special races do at other venues seems to me that special races go to die at Gateway. I don't think it's just management inconsistency everytime the gate opens is a lot of the problem five dollars a head to pull a few spectators is a better income than empty seats
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